From: Jeff Williams
Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] Consensus
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 21:35:48 -0700

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Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,

  As I have already addressed this two times now here, I don't feel
it is necessary for me to do so again.  Please review the archives...

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Thank you Jeff,
>
> This is what I am referring to:
>
> Ok, we have reached a consensus for a foundation,
>
> The World At-Large body, within the ICANN, which is formed for discussion and
> bottoms-up,
> open and transparent election of Board of Dierekers (alternative spelling may
> be
> appropriate) shall have the following characteristics and shall conduct it's
> elections
> under the following principals;
>
> 1.  Shall be inclusive of all users.
> 2.  Shall not charge a voting tax or membership fee.
> 3.  Shall be funded entirely by ICANN monies.
> 4.  Shall execute an election implementing the three following methods:
>
>     a.  On line direct, using appropriate security, encryption and Key devices
> to ensure
> propriety.
>     b.  Using Local Public Online with appropriate security to ensure
> propriety.
>     c.  Using appropriate traditional methods of mailing and in person with
> methods in
> place to ensure propriety.
>
> Am I right here or what?
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
> I know from your earlier posts that you do not like the wording but are in
> agreement with the theory.  It is important to note that God will not come
> down to declare consensus, however since the day I posted this no one but you
> has argued against it and by absentia that would make it a consensus.  Unless
> of course people are being physically prohibited from voicing their
> objection.  What I want is a non-objected to statement of consensus on points
> so that when the ALSC makes a presentation they will have to acknowledge this
> lists' consensus or suffer the fact they did not.  I am embarrassingly being
> politik here and would appreciate any help in that regard.
>
> Any me toos would be appropriate here for the point of showing support -- or
> not.
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> >
> >   I am very confused by Eric's request.  I am not empowered nor
> > do I know of any way in which a consensus can be declared on this forum
> > as there is none that I know of, not do I even know what specifically
> > that Eric is requesting "ME" to declare.  In addition there isn't any
> > process or procedure by any consensus could be honestly declared
> > as there is no method of determining that a Consensus on anything.
> >
> >   If any one know what Eric is requesting consensus on please
> > post it to this Forum, so that all of may benefit from this information.
> >
> >   If Eric would be so kind, please, in detail, post what you believe there
> > is consensus on.  Thank you Eric in advance for you cooperation.
> >
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > In light of his well phrased reservations I ask that Mr. Williams
> > > declare the consensus reached herein so that we may well state that it
> > > was reached.
> > >
> > > I do believe that it has been reached on this list and only needs to be
> > > put forth and better articulated than my mealy mind is able to offer.
> > > (reached is a great term, as with my little 18 month old she has yet to
> > > overcome her fear of actually reaching the ceiling)
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance Mr. Williams as it is a difficult task
> > >
> > > May the sun rise, producing brightness and hope, but may all of us be
> > > able to find the cool refreshment of shade and reflection in a cool pond
> > > of still water.
> > >
> > > Eric
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 118k members strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number:  972-447-1800 x1894 or 214-244-4827
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 118k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1800 x1894 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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