Re: [ALSC-Forum] Evaluation of NAIS and ALSC Reports

[Jeff Williams]

Bruce and all stakeholders or interested parties,

Bruce Young wrote:

> Jeff wrote:
>
> >What DNSO Constituency are you referring to Bruce?  The DNSO
> >(Domain Name Supporting Organization) has several constituencies.
>
> That was "constituency" with a little "c."  My point was that domain name
> holders should look to the DNSO to speak for their interests, while the
> At-Large should speak for the interests of users.

  Agreed!!  But you know that Domain Name holders/owners are also
users.  So representation in the At-Large should be made just as
available to them as any other stakeholder or interested party.

> The fact that the DNSO
> doesn't support its constituents (domain name holders) well at this point
> should not be an excuse to give them the At-Large as well!

  Also agreed!  ANd that is the fundamental thing that is wrong with the
ALSC Draft Report as it does just that.  In doing so, the ALSC
has not listened to the stakeholders very well, it is using a lack of
representation in the DNSO for Domain name holders as an excuse
to justify it's dubious conclusions and recommendations, and at the
same time kill off the DNSO.  Nice trick if it will fly.  I don't
think it will long term anyway.  But I would not be supprised that
if in the Nov. MdR ICANN meeting that the BoD votes for it.

>
>
> Bruce Young
> Client Engineering
> Lockheed Martin Global Telecommunications
> Phone: 503.466.6571
> Fax: 503.466.6775
> E-mail:  Bruce.Young@nwdc.ibs-lmco.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-forum@www.atlargestudy.org
> [mailto:owner-forum@www.atlargestudy.org]On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 5:42 PM
> To: Bruce Young
> Cc: 'Eric Dierker'; forum@atlargestudy.org
> Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] Evaluation of NAIS and ALSC Reports
>
> Bruce and all stakeholders or interested parties,
>
> Bruce Young wrote:
>
> > Eric wrote:
> >
> > >Would some one please point me to the document that creates the idea that
> > DNSO
> > >is about domain name holders and not users.  Domain Name Support
> > Organization,
> > >where and when was it established that the stakeholders were
> holders/owners
> > at
> > >the exclusion of users.
> >
> > As I see it (and I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong!), the DNSO
> > constituency is ultimately domain name holders, since policies they
> champion
> > regarding domain name isuues affect them most directly.
>
>   What DNSO Constituency are you referring to Bruce?  The DNSO
> (Domain Name Supporting Organization) has several constituencies.
>
> >  Similarly, if the
> > At-Large was operating as originally intended, policies it championed
> would
> > be those that affect individual domain users.
>
>   Well yes, but not ONLY those policies or even predominantly policies that
> Individual Domain Name Usres (IDNU.ORG anyone?) are the purview of the
> At-Large ICANN Membership.
>
> > That's not to say that issues
> > of interest to one won't be of interest to the other.  It just means that
> > their focus will (and should!) be different.
>
>   Perhaps in some instances this would be the case.  But certainly not
> always.
> Some DOmain Name related issues may be shared, as would Protocol issues
> and IP numbering issues, especially when it come to IPv6 and the privacy
> and security exposures concerned with IPv6.
>
> >
> >
> > Bruce Young
> > Integration Engineer, Client Engineering
> > Lockheed Martin Global Telecommunications
> > Phone: 503.466.6571
> > Fax: 503.466.6775
> > E-mail:  Bruce.Young@nwdc.ibs-lmco.com
>
> Regards,
>
> --
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> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1800 x1894 or 214-244-4827
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