From: Eric Dierker
Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] Re: Direct vs. Indirect elections
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:11:03 -0700

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truer words have seldom been spoken.  By all four participants. So what is the
result of such truth?

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Joop and all stakeholders or interested parties,
>
> Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> > At 08:26 19/10/01 -0700, Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > >Yes it does Leah,
> > >
> > >But the issue by in large is not being ignored.  Although in principal we
> > >may lose the first round for non domain name holders it will be better than
> > >no progress.
> >
> > This is also my view. By starting to ask for the (near) impossible, you
> > help guaranteeing that we never get user input at all.
>
>   Nothing created by man is impossible.
>
> >
> >
> > Domain Name Holders have a strong case as stakeholders in the DNS.
>
>   Yes we do.  No more so than non-domain name holders though.  In fact
> the majority of the stakeholders are users and they also provide the vast
> majority of the funds that keep the net running.  The MoU and White
> Paper guarantees them equal participation.  They belong even more
> so than do Domain name holders.
>
> >
> > They need a channel of communication with the supply -side in this
> > industry, within an ICANN where their vote counts.
> >
> > Wider democracy where Internet users without Domains can have a voice, can
> > come when the first objective has actually been realized and tested for
> > effectiveness.
> >
> > In the non-internet history of democracy too we have seen an evolutionary
> > process.
> > Suffrage rights were first obtained by taxpayers, then by all people with
> > some education, then the women were included, and only then  all above a
> > certain age limit got the vote.
> >
> > --Joop
>
> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
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> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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