Re: [ALSC-Forum] Re: Direct vs. Indirect elections

[Jeff Williams]

Eric, Joanna and all stakeholders or interested parties,

  Let us not get all upset Eric.  Joanna's questions is a good one.
As the "Outreach" person for the DNSO GA, we are looking to you
for some of the help to answer Joanna's question.  We are hoping that
through your wonderful efforts that you will be able to grow the
awareness for stakeholders that are currently not participating to
be able to participate!  How is that coming BTW, Eric?

  It is been long true the the ICANN BoD and staff have by in large
been lacking in doing much to gain participation by stakeholders.
Many have said and believe this is by design.  I am one of those.
But we whom are participants must try to help the ICANN BoD
and staff in this important endeavor.  We [INEGroup] have only to
see that our members and other interested parties thwarted by
that same ICANN BoD and staff as is evident on the DNSO GA
and Bob Davis and James Touton's permanent banning from participation
by Harald Alverstand, now the Chair of the IETF, but at that time
was chair of the DNSO GA.  We also now see that the ICANN BoD
and staff through it's ALSC wishes to limit the stakeholders to
a mere 50k members all of which must be Domain Name holders.
That of course is hardly representative as most of us know.

  This cannot stand of course!  So Eric, you have a rather large
task ahead, and little time to spend here responding to Joanna
or anyone else.  Time to get your hushpuppies on and start
the door knocking, gaining and growing the awareness of
new here to fore non-participating stakeholder of interested
parties and gathering funding for the DNSO GA.

  A suggestion for you to possibly concentrate on Eric in your
task(s).  Begin with working on getting New.net recognized
in the BC (Business Constituency) and their customers aware
that they too are stakeholders that should be participating.
After all most of them are Domain Name holders and I believe
on last count there were 16m of them.

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Dang it Joanna,
>
> We are working on a project that involves sub locations for internet
> connectivity otherwise known as Internet Cafe's.  By the end of next week we
> will begin approaching Institutions like the UN to help fund this in and out
> reach.  It is really quite difficult to manage and by tuesday we will begin
> conferences.  The statistics indicate one billion users through these
> channels.
>
> But as users, or dotcommoners we must be patient.  I want a shoeshine boy
> from Kabul to be the first voter.  We will not rest but we shall be patient.
> This is why I have hire my able assistant Brooks although we have be
> sidetracked as of late.  But we will give a good showl.  As Jeff has said so
> well us dotcommoners own this net and we will control it soon.  Take heart
> the AL will soon dictate terms.
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
> Joanna Lane wrote:
>
> > I concur. One cannot simply avoid the fact that there are internet
> > stakeholders out there who have nothing to do with the Domain Name
> > Registration business and will not even be aware that an ALSC exists.
> > What is the proposal to reach this group about issues in which they will
> > have an interest?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joanna
> >
> > on 10/19/01 11:09 AM, Sandy Harris at sandy@storm.ca wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > L Gallegos wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This discussion completely ignores those who have email access
> > >> only, wihch is a sufficiently large number of people from many
> > >> countries, that it must be addressed.
> > >
> > > Good point. The earlier suggestion of a PGP web of trust would
> > > allow those people to vote. No web-based solution does.
> > >
> > > I think this means that a web-based solution is at most an
> > > add-on, something we do for the convenience of certain users,
> > > while an email-based method is a requirement.
> > >
> > >> On 18 Oct 2001, at 13:10, Sandy Harris wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Bruce Young wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>> Will it scale to the millions of potential voters, many just end
> > >>>>> users with limited access to limited machines, and many not
> > >>>>> speaking English?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So we engineer a client browser plug-in that prompts for language.
> > >>>> I imagine if ICANN asked the public, no small number of developers
> > >>>> would be willing to donate time to engineer this for us.
> > >>>
> > >>> Perhaps, but it is not an easy problem, given the variety of
> > >>> languages, and browsers, out there. Also, I don't think it is at all
> > >>> clear either that many developers would want to donate time for this
> > >>> or that we should be asking them to, rather than paying them for any
> > >>> work we want done.
> > >>>
> > >>> On the other hand, many browsers already have multi-language support
> > >>> and forms support and SSL/TLS enecryption/authentication security. It
> > >>> is not clear we need a plugin, perhaps just a carefully designed set
> > >>> of web pages and some translation work.

Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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