From: Christian.Ahlert
Subject: Re: [ALSC-Forum] Authentication Technology -- Please try it out
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:37:29 -0800

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I agree with Bret, but "the benefit of remembering faces" is that it 
makes  large scale fraud much more difficult, because the creation 
of multiple identities cannot be programmed - at least I assume it.

CA



Date forwarded: 	Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:08:19 -0500
Date sent:      	Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:08:05 -0800
Subject:        	Re: [ALSC-Forum] Authentication Technology -- Please try it out
From:           	Bret Fausett <fausett@lextext.com>
To:             	Esther Dyson <edyson@edventure.com>
Copies to:      	Mr Pindar Wong <pindar@hk.super.net>, Karl Auerbach <karl@cavebear.com>,
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Then that requires solving a different problem ("Who are you?") than the one
Pindar identified ("Are you real?"). Why isn't it also possible for a single
user to create multiple fraudulent accounts with Realuser?

     -- Bret

Esther Dyson wrote:
> yes, but one sighted human can do this many times.....
> 
> Esther
> 
> At 12:47 PM 2/15/2002, Bret Fausett wrote:
> 
>> Mr Pindar Wong wrote:
>>> The benefits of moving faces around, from my perspective, is in trying to
>>> ensure that there is a live human being at the other end of the line. As you
>>> well know, passwords and pins can all be cracked and scripted and I'm
>>> wondering if the same is true in this case of passfaces.
>> 
>> If the goal is to ensure that a person participating is a real human, i.e.
>> not a bot, then I've seen other procedures that likely work as well and
>> could be coded with relative ease (and without using third-party proprietary
>> software).
>> 
>> For example, before you sign up for a mailing list on Yahoo, you're
>> presented with a graphic image of a simple word, like "dog" or "cat." You're
>> asked to type the word displayed in the graphic into a text box, and if
>> you're right, you're subscribed. Sighted humans can identify the letters,
>> bots can't.
>> 
>>      -- Bret



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